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Influencers are OUT, words are IN, and tbd on 'lolcows' which i'm just now learning about

talking internet with Katherine Dee

I had

, the writer of on a stream yesterday and it was great. We basically just hung out and talked about being weird online people.

Some stuff that came up:

  • We both admitted that having kids, turning 30, and other life milestones did nothing to cure our need for internet attention. If anything, it got worse.

  • Katherine introduced me to "lolcows" - people who get obsessively documented and mocked online. What a world!

  • She has haters who find her boring yet still talk about her constantly. One guy even cried about how boring she is on a podcast (goals).

  • She uses AI as a sort of digital therapist. She'll feed it text arguments with friends and ask "was I being crazy here?"

Katherine's IN/OUT List:

IN:

  • Livestreaming

  • Words (written content)

  • Substack generally

  • Local connections to online ventures

OUT:

  • Podcasts

  • Twitter/X

  • Influencers

We’re gonna do it again soon! You can watch a good chunk of the video for free and then become a paying BAT head to view the whole thing (gonna do this with all the streams because I think it might be a good way to grow Both Are True into the Comedic Empire it was always Meant To Be).

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